2nd Annual Summer Showdown July 17

[bigchris]

All info is on the flyer. If you have any additional questions please feel free to post on thread.

[Discontained]

what are the classes, I cant read the text

[carguy07]

Looks really good man. Feel like the constructive criticism went a long way. I agree though, might want to blow up the image or host it online so it's a little easier to read.

[theboostedsnail]

i can read it lol the classes be: antique/classic, domestic tuner, import tuner, euro tuner, donks/ big wheels, muscle, and other for cars, then suvs mini rucks and others lol

[bigchris]

sorry about that yall when i get the adobe version later this week i will upload it on here might be a little better to read. But classes are antique/classics, import tuners, domestic tuners, euro tuners, muscles, donks/big wheels, and other for cars, SUV and other for trucks, and bikes are all in one class.

[Kevo]

Email me a bigger version of the flyer and I will post around for ya...kmartin1028@gmail.com

[bigchris]

aright bruh....I will have the pdf format later this week i will email it to ya once i get it.

[bigchris]

aight everyone i had to change the time legacy wanted me to gone by 7 so the show has to end at 6. sorry for any inconveince.

[dean]

discontained, I always feel dirty when I see your siggy... lol ... It's like I want to stop looking... but can't lol

[bigchris]

bigger flyer on page now!!!

[Kevo]

Got the event info posted on quite a few places. Trying my best to get the word out...

[bigchris]

where you got it at so far

[Kevo]

where you got it at so far

CCS, NOSnation, SMR

[jasonball]

for some reason i thought it was this past weekend. good still got like a month.

[carguy07]

for some reason i thought it was this past weekend. good still got like a month.

I thought the same thing, fortunately it wasn't.

[carguy07]

Bumping this up and gonna sticky it so I don't forget where it is. I plan to be there with at least one of my escorts, and look forward to a good show.

Anyone else planning to go?

[Filthy Dub]

Unsure...still a maybe.

[Kevo]

I'm going to be there. Pretty sure other from CCS or NOS will join...got a big cruise planned on the Friday before!

[jasonball]

is it still happening. I haven't heard anything about it on the radio or flyers except from here. last I saw was he car was damn near totals sitting in front of extremem.

give us an update

[carguy07]

I'm going to be there. Pretty sure other from CCS or NOS will join...got a big cruise planned on the Friday before!

Tell me more.


is it still happening. I haven't heard anything about it on the radio or flyers except from here. last I saw was he car was damn near totals sitting in front of extremem.

give us an update

x2

[dean]

I was planning on going, but some family stuff came up. I'll be in Kentucky on the weekend of this particular show =(

[bigchris]

Well sorry to hear that is your club still going to attend?

[jasonball]

so is the show still on? anything cool to look forward too

[bigchris]

yeah it is still on...im praying it dont rain and if it does only a sprinkle ro after the show. I am going to have a bouncer for the kids and i belive one vendor will be doing face painting....Also there will be a couple shops there ....there will be a live dj...food, i am going ot be raffling off some stuff and giving away some stuff to.. All and all i think it should be pretty good. I hope everyone shows up as anticipated. There are quite a few people traveling a good distance to come and also if anyone need accomodations for th enight please let me know so i can send you the info i received from hampton inn. Oh yeah there will be a few people filming and taking pics out there. Please make sure that everyone spreads the word so it will be very successful.

[carguy07]

So who all is going and showing? I don't want to have to hard park all by myself.

And Kevo is the cruise Friday night CCS only? I do drive a Ford. . .lol

[Kevo]

So who all is going and showing? I don't want to have to hard park all by myself.

And Kevo is the cruise Friday night CCS only? I do drive a Ford. . .lol

A few from CCS are planning on showing, more than welcome to park near us...we will probably meet @ Petsmart first so we can all roll in together, I'll have to get back to you on the time. The cruise today is a CCS cruise but your more than welcome to join. We are taking hwy27 up to Hamilton, Georgia then going left on hwy116 all the way over to hwy219. Then we are going to work our way down to Pat's Backwaters (I have rented the party room) and my wife will be our waitress. Meeting @ Petsmart at 6pm leaving at 6:30pm promptly.

[carguy07]

A few from CCS are planning on showing, more than welcome to park near us...we will probably meet @ Petsmart first so we can all roll in together, I'll have to get back to you on the time. The cruise today is a CCS cruise but your more than welcome to join. We are taking hwy27 up to Hamilton, Georgia then going left on hwy116 all the way over to hwy219. Then we are going to work our way down to Pat's Backwaters (I have rented the party room) and my wife will be our waitress. Meeting @ Petsmart at 6pm leaving at 6:30pm promptly.

I can't head back toward Harris County that time of day. My friend is moving back to Mexico and we're having a dinner and get together for him, which I had forgot about. Thanks for the invite man.

[theboostedsnail]

may try and swing by later in the day if the muystang is goin by then, i wont be enterin but may show up to see the turnout

[carguy07]

It was a productive day. There were 3 domestic tuners in the show, and two of us took home second place trophies. Lol. Tommy had some beautiful cars on display, and that Mustang is going to make grown men cry. It was good to get out and meet new people in the scene, hopefully some will join up.

[StevenSTi]

forgot all about this, but the Lexus is still wrecked so I wouldnt have been able to show anyway. hope it went well

[Filthy Dub]

I was there. Only Euro too...

[Kevo]

Good time for meet/greet but to me the show was sub-par. Half the cars that won (mostly in the big wheel catagories) had some of the crappiest paint work I have ever seen in my entire life. How someone would get their car painted any actually accept that kind of work blows my mind. Even the crotch-rockets had runs and trash all in the paint. I asked a lot of them who did their paint and most said Extreme so I guess I know where to stay away from. Probably the highlight of the show was hearing the Mach1 run...Regardless had a good time with friends but probably won't register next year...waste of $25 in my opinion. Nothing against you Chris just my opinion...

[Filthy Dub]

x2 Probably wont go unless it greatly improves. Glad I didnt enter...

[dean]

I've heard rumors this show was rigged. Confirm/Deny?

[SecondLetter]

i heard there was some controversy too, im barely in the scene anymore and i heard Lol

[Kevo]

I've heard rumors this show was rigged. Confirm/Deny?

I'm not going to confirm or deny but things did look a little 'fishy.' Supposedly next year they going to try and get inside the civic center, don't see that happening with the few cars they had there. Was told 100 car pre-registered but I guess they forgot cause there wasn't that many cars there.

[dean]

What would you guys think about getting a panel of some local clubs together and creating a "black list" of sorts for shows that we feel are a waste of time.

By the by, you can't put ours on there!!!! lololol

[jasonball]

I do not think putting panel together is a good idea. going to a show is based on judgment. The rumor mill will speak for itself. enough people talk and they will learn. you can black list a show by your opinion but I would put a list togehter becuase you might have a show that someone wants to put on that list.

going to shows is all about expierence. now you know what kind of show that group is capbable of. so you choose to attend next time or not. I figured people would have figured it out that it wasn't put together well just by the show discussion. not this one. but there was another one. plus the show last year wasn't a hit either that was at cooks. there are people that can show out putting on a show and then there aren't.

[carguy07]

I learned a long time ago that most shows in Columbus are going to be sub par. Yes there are people who know what they are doing, but there are also people who really like to get their friends together and hand out trophies. Essentially if you lower your standards, you can usually have a pretty good time.

Honestly I went to the show because there was a Domestic Tuner class, and that's the battle I've been fighting for years. During the awards, they mentioned that only 2 domestics entered and then didn't call my name. The blue neon in Lowline won, showing up after judging was almost over. I went up to see and sure enough, they misplaced my judging sheet. Fortunately I did score more than the second place car: an NA Neon with a boost gauge and unpainted body kit. I at least got a trophy, which I can't complain about.

[dean]

I hear ya. Hey not to get off topic... but has anyone done a show at the Walmart/Sam's parking lot off of airport thruway yet? I was think about asking for permission to hold TR there next year

[Kevo]

I hear ya. Hey not to get off topic... but has anyone done a show at the Walmart/Sam's parking lot off of airport thruway yet? I was think about asking for permission to hold TR there next year

It is usually full with customers cars, not sure if Walmart would be willing to give up the spaces for cheap nevertheless free. We all know Cook's is played out...Tractor Supply Store in Midland told me once they wouldn't mind hosting a show, and also Ink66 is interested in sponsoring some shows. I think AEP needs to get a show together got plenty of people and different areas to bring a crap load of people together. Wayne (the CCS Prez) can get the classics to show, I can get the mustang crowd, Dean got the holy crowd, then got plenty of imports/euros on the board also. Should make for a wide-variety show, something Columbus hasn't seen since the Club Wars Event @ ihop/zoo city.

[theboostedsnail]

i vote on puttin together a show for sure my parents shop will sponsor, im sure tommy will too, so lets get on it :)

[carguy07]

i vote on puttin together a show for sure my parents shop will sponsor, im sure tommy will too, so lets get on it :)

I would love to put a show on, but it couldn't be this year. The week after Nopi I'm moving back to Athens and I really want to live the college life one last time. The Spring would be an option, depending on how my student teaching goes.

[jasonball]

I would be willing to help if yall are totally serious about it. no BS

[Filthy Dub]

I agree about this hugely...I could get a decent Euro showing too.

[bigchris]

k I havent been on here in a while. To answer everyone question was it rigged. HELL NAW it wasnt. I will agree a lot of BS happened at the last min to me. The help I was suppose to have stood me up. I formally apologized to most. I think it was an alright show but i agree with most it was a lot of bs goin on. As far as the civic center I am trying to plan that but I want to to do it with the key people who have done plenty of shows so it will be 100% successfful. As far as the paint jobs form extreme there was only 4 and i agree on of them is really messed up but thats because it is because it wasnt done and he wanted all that flake in there which i agree it does look like trash in the paint. Now other 3 we all know, thats the lifesavers, the coors light truck, and i dont know they guy personally but it was a grey escort. So i am aopen to everything and I am sking for all the help I can get to pull this off at the civic center.

[Kevo]

Better become friends with Jason Ball real quick cause his Club Wars Event @ Zoo City was the widest variety successful show I've been to in quite sometime. Could try to pull it together as another club vs club cause that seems to bring the biggest crowds from all makes and models. AEP been chatting about throwing a show maybe we all can get in on the action and make sure everything is planned head to toe with no surprises. The show can only be as good as the people running it. Sorry to hear about ppl backing out on you but that is probably the melt down for the whole show.

[jasonball]

pokes his head in. ( I'm watching)

[carguy07]

The escort is mine, I never said I wasn't satisfied. If there is trash in the paint, it doesn't bother me as much as it bothers you.

[bigchris]

@carguy the paint on your excort was nice to me...see flake looks good but sometimes toomuch doesnt look good and also on certain colors it dont look good. @kevo now i believe a lot of people backe dout because of what people were saying about it instead of calling me and making me aware of situtation they chose to beleive something that was untrue. also st the jason ball thing he didnt come oue and eve support so as far as me going to him for advice im good on that onel. Nothing against the guy but if he dont support me then why support someone else. So once again i do these shows first of cause i like to look at the differnt cars cars epople have and 2nd for everyone else so tey wont have to travel anywhere far jsut up the road. Now currently I am planning a show at the civic center. I mean i can lean in two directions with it righ tnow. I want all ages, races, and car types to be present but if i cant get the support imma have to go that other way. the donks, the lifted cars and so forth. So nce again I am open to everything. Please give your imputs on what you want to see cause if it si in reason then i will do it. thats my word. and to shut out all confusion I have my own club now certified customs. so none with my logo will be in the show. any other club it is open to. so hit me with the questions...

[dean]

@carguy the paint on your excort was nice to me...see flake looks good but sometimes toomuch doesnt look good and also on certain colors it dont look good. @kevo now i believe a lot of people backe dout because of what people were saying about it instead of calling me and making me aware of situtation they chose to beleive something that was untrue. also st the jason ball thing he didnt come oue and eve support so as far as me going to him for advice im good on that onel. Nothing against the guy but if he dont support me then why support someone else. So once again i do these shows first of cause i like to look at the differnt cars cars epople have and 2nd for everyone else so tey wont have to travel anywhere far jsut up the road. Now currently I am planning a show at the civic center. I mean i can lean in two directions with it righ tnow. I want all ages, races, and car types to be present but if i cant get the support imma have to go that other way. the donks, the lifted cars and so forth. So nce again I am open to everything. Please give your imputs on what you want to see cause if it si in reason then i will do it. thats my word. and to shut out all confusion I have my own club now certified customs. so none with my logo will be in the show. any other club it is open to. so hit me with the questions...
Dude... look honestly the best advice I can give you is not to try and defend the show. I wasn't there because something to do with family, but even my former VP said it was rigged. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, but that's the word around town. I can tell you from my experience in this scene that you might want to hang up planning it for next year. Give it a year to have a break and get off of everyone's mind. I can tell you right now that most of your numbers are going to come from local clubs. If the local clubs think your show is rigged (and they do) then they will not show up. Whoever your staff was at that show was a BAD judgment call. From what I heard through the grapevine they all wanted to hand trophies to their friends and the judging, from what I heard, was poor at best. Just to set the example I will say that as long as the date doesn't conflict with anything I should be able to show up at next year's show with the Columbus chapter with whoever is willing to come, and I might be able to talk the royal flush guys in to coming, but I stand by my advice that you might want to give it a year before you do it again (i.e. hold it in 2012 instead of 2011).

As far as your comment about "too much" flake in paint... there's a word to describe a high metallic content and it's called "mica". It doesn't look trashy if it's done right and not like a friggin fishing boat. My car, for instance, has a paint code that's classed in that mica category and it looks very good... and it's stock.

[jasonball]

sneaky ninja pokes his head in again.

[dean]

sneaky ninja pokes his head in again.

Dang ninjas! I need to become a ninjitsu samurai master so I can cut their heads off! lol

[jasonball]

it is a learned art like many things( car shows).

[dean]

it is a learned art like many things( car shows).

lol... troll

[SecondLetter]

Lol, Jason has become ruthless as of late....i like it

[jasonball]

not ruthless at bro. since i'm not into the scene that much anymore. I don't pipe in. but when I know I'm strong in an area that can help out I will poke my nose to see where the topic goes.

[bigchris]

@DEAN, I 100% understand what you are saying. thanks for the proper word and i agree if it dont look like a fishing boat then it looks good. You took the words out my mouth. that was what i was saying. This is my beef everyone says i need to get to know jason ball. K if you read throughout this thread i did ask for advice on things and i did follow most of it. Here is the question though why didnt nobody comeout and support in strength like that. I had all the righ people there but noone really came. I had one or two members from each club and not all. I i am not going to wait two years to plan one. Right now i am planning the one for next year. I want all people to come. This show will be on a larger scale that what club wars was cuase it is open to everyone in the u.s.. So once again i am asking please send me all your ideas and if it is feasable and offordable i promise it will be there. I need all ideas from classes, types music, artists, food, price, etc... everything i would like to hear cuase this is for the city not myself. I have teamed up with a few people from the radio stations and one of the biggest promotors around town. So please everyone i woul dlike your support. Im asking you myself. Im not goign to go to jason ball and have him ask you when i can do that myslef. Now jason i was at that club war show and i know you didnt do it all by yourself..you had help. So with that said if you would like to help me make this successful hit me up im all ears.

[jasonball]

you know my first question what is the benefit or charity. that is one reason I didn't support the last one. becuase it took and arm and a leg to get a charity or for you to agree on a charity event. when I mean chairty event. I dno't mean compensate what you put into the show I mean every thing that show brings in goes to charity not to buying trophies or paying back what you spent. I spent thousands do shows and never paid myself back. so if you can assure that i'm not funding your pockets than I will support.


one thing I don't agree with and this is just me. you show know what most people want at a show. if you have been to them then you see what went wrong at them. if you want a sucessful mixed show then you need to be consumer friendly with classes and get it advertised.

we can't really give you idea if your not giving us the details of the show.

[bigchris]

Once again this charity things comes up again! I dont get the charity thing. K I completely understand if you have a show at a church, a empty lot , cooks place, or legacy. Those places are free and yeah i agree you should give at the least something to charity. So here are the details as far right now. The show will be a large show at the civic center or at the least in the parking lot unless we can find a better site at a cheaper rate. As far as the charity goes i dont htink we will have one cause of how large the show will be. Right now we are trying ot mirror the v103 bash up in atlanta so I know the money they make is the money they make. I understand wha tyou have done jason but this show will be on a much larger scale than anyone that has ever been here. We are going to have the cars come the day before or the night before and judging will be that day then the next day will be strictly showing and the judging will already be over. So yes people will have to leave there cars there over night. We are also going to have a lot of high valued artist artists coming there to perform. I will agree i do know what calsse people want but I am thinking of doing a top 100 or something of that sort a whole lot easier that way. Me and everybody else agree that we dont want the main focus to be the performances but the car show. We dont want people to be like oh another concert going on cause it a car show first then everything else as bonuses. I am going to get one of the readio stations involved just havent figured out which one yet. So people i need yout to know and understand that the colum of this show will be large and not just a local show we are trying ot have. I want all of you guys support but I cant just give everything away to charity cause the type fo show we are going to have. So @ Jason what is the problem with me having a huge event in which i makin money off of it. I mean honestly how many large shows do you know dont make anything off of it whether its the vendors, or whatever...I know spring fling is not 100% charitable or anything like that. and if it is i would lie to see the advertisement somewhere. From my understanding spring fling started off as a local show and grew to what it is now. That is what I am trying to do with this show. Bring exposure to columbus to say that we can do the same. I already have people in mind of who I am going to go to for advice and ask them if they would like to get involved but I feel like becuase im trying to make a living on something i have a passion for im worng.

[jasonball]

then start a buisness. spring fling grew over the years. all of your shows have been pure shit. you want to do the scene some good. learn how to throw a sucessful show and stop ruinning the show rep in columbus what it has left.


I have a lot more to say. but will refrain for the respect of the forums.

this is my last post on this topic.

[dean]

Chris... Chris... Chris... there is everything wrong with you making money off of it. Now if you set up "Summer Showdown" to be a 501c3 organization that puts on a self titled show, that's different. Much like I've done with Tuner Revolution, it's now a 501c3 organization that holds a self titled show to donate money to different charities. It's unfortunate, I know, that no one cares about you personally profiting off of this show, but that's just the reality of it. The car clubs and enthusiasts in this town WILL NOT come to your show if you do not have a charity. First of all, you're not a big enough name for people to want to see you make profit on it, secondly, because you're not big enough, you can't hold a show, say that you're going to get the money, and expect people to be okay with it. That'd be like Joe Bloe coming out of the woodwork in left field and screaming at the top of his lungs he wants to hold a car show and make money off of it. You're not Nopi, Spring Fling, Pigeon, or any other show that's PROVEN itself yet. In order to keep planning for big turnout, you have to have a reputable name... which you don't. I'm sorry if I'm coming off harsh, but you're going to end up the laughing stock of Columbus if you keep persisting with this. I'm telling you this as a friend and someone who's been there done that.

[bigchris]

did you miss th epoint i made. I said it grew over the years. so because i want my show to grow over the years and take it to the next level you say you wont support it cause it aint charity. wow...how may shows have you been to that wasnt charity. so whatyour saying to me is becuase you can talk to me one on one i cant throw a large show in which i make a profit. thats the only reason i can come up with cause you keep going around the question. so here it is again why cant i make a profit of a show if im trying to do it on a large scale? Also you ay start a business. Its obvious i have if i doing this on this scale. Also the 1st show i had was pretty siccessful if you ask me...the second one was good to but would have been better if someone would not have hated on me saying it was rigged. I told everyone there was one thing that went wrong and that was the judgin sheets were not in the right order. But once i found out the mistakes then i immediately fixed them. I think someone hated becuase nvus won a lot of trophies. They had the most cars there. Royal flush would have showed but me and jonny had a misunderstanding two weeks prior. Hey I personally invited every club around here and how many actually came?? I had a few and i thanked them. I learned form my mistakes and next year none fo that wont happen. I didnt have the proper manning for it but next year all of that will be on point. So bruh once i do this show i will personally have a free ticket waiting for you at the booth with your name on it. Once again im askin hey of you got some imput it cause criticism i can take but hatin i cant.

[bigchris]

@ dean...Brother you have much respect from me on how you put your words. I totally agree on that with im a nobody around here. Im not form here nor have i been here long enough, thats why on this next show i am involving people that are well know around here. So dean maybe we need to plan a sit down and talk about a few things so this will be successful. Like i continue to say i want a successful show and ask for everyone help.

[jasonball]

Show me the details. and specifics. who what when and where.

where is it going to be , when is it going to be. who is the big names comming what are the awards. any major sponsors. be specific. beucase big shows have a lot of details. how is judging going to take place what is the criteria. what does teh score sheet look like.

what is the name of your buisness and if you need the paper for the 501c3. let me know I got it. becuase I am and aep were registered while I was runing the site as a charitable org. for my shows I had documention for everything where money was spent how it was spent and the amounts. they were there for the public view to see where there money went and the the thank you letters fromt he charity where the money was sent.


you can't just ask people to support the show. you need to convince them that they want to support the show. which is going to be hard becuase of the past shows. I'm not hating. becuase I have no reason. I have made my mark on thescene in numerous ways. I'm past the point of having to prove myself.

[theboostedsnail]

wow :ninja: that is all

[Kevo]

Believe you are trying to get 'too' big too fast! Need to get a couple yearly shows under your belt with GREAT turnouts and then turn to putting together something bigger. I wouldn't look at this as a way of making money in Columbus, if you were in a larger city with a more organized car enthusiast then maybe.

[SecondLetter]

alright, heres what i see. your going to bring down some big artists ( i guess whosever hot at that time), you got the biggest promoter in town and radio stations helping? oh and your renting out the civic center. leaving cars overnight ...( im guessing Hot Import NIghts style, which means your going indoors)
now lets say you dont get the hottest rapper out, but somebody kind of hot...like say Wocka Flocka
well, he wants 10k a show
then you gotta pay the promoter who helped bring him down, then you gotta pay to rent the civic center out, oh lets not forget the insurance its going to cost for a show of this caliber, then of course the top 100 trophies, and other misc stuff....now with paying all of this, where do you see profit coming from? tickets must gonna cost alot, entry fee's gonna be an arm and/or leg.
i'll put it like this, unless your Funkmaster Flex going from city to city making this money for a show, or DUB where you get the hottest rappers ( more than 1) performing at your event, your not making a profit. Theres a reason why these shows dont come to Columbus...they arent going to make that profit. Even NOPI had to combine with another big name just to throw an annual show this yr.
Just saying....before you dip your pen in the ink, know exactly what your going to do, i tell you now, this will not equal atlanta's Birthday Bash that you mentioned earlier, nothing in Columbus will

[jasonball]

Ptap has had the IDEA to have a huge show for years. why do you think jason has not gone through with it. Becuase deep down he is a business man and there will be no profit in the end for him. Sure you can say passion but passion only runs so far before it becomes out of control

[SecondLetter]

Ptap has had the IDEA to have a huge show for years. why do you think jason has not gone through with it. Becuase deep down he is a business man and there will be no profit in the end for him. Sure you can say passion but passion only runs so far before it becomes out of control

exactly, business men that have business in the modifying car scene has tried this already, at the same location your saying, with the same idea of bringing artists to the show. i talked to Jason about this earlier, but yeeeaaarrrrsss ago LePro did a show at the civic center, the whole 9 that your saying. the only successful local shows i been to that was annual and i made it my business to be there when i was showing, was Lepro's show and PTAPS show.
But, i am interested Chris, what artist did you have in mind to perform, i know you said it would be top artist

[dean]

Ptap has had the IDEA to have a huge show for years. why do you think jason has not gone through with it. Because deep down he is a business man and there will be no profit in the end for him. Sure you can say passion but passion only runs so far before it becomes out of control

This! I actually talked to Jason about it and he himself said for him to do it he'd lose about 20K. You would be lucky just to break even tbh.

Chris, I have mad respect for you brah! I have no problem sitting down with you, but you need to take Jason Ball's advice before you listen to me. I've put on 1 car show, and while it was successful considering what it was at the time, I by no means have it all figured out. Jason Ball is having to help me with some of the planning for mine. You need to find a venue that people haven't seen to much of first off... the Civic Center is definitely not that. Also, you have to take into consideration, as Jason point out, the amount of insurance. If you're planning on the numbers you say you are, you're going to need around a minimum.... MINIMUM of about $10 million in total liability coverage... and that's just for the cars, not to mention the civic center is going to require a deposit of some sort to get the venue. Heck I'm paying $1,000.00 for the venue our show is going to be at. As I said before, I'll set the example and bring my guys because I told you I would and try to get some of the other clubs involved now that we're all in contact with each other better.... but I'm just saying man.

Me personally, no show is a waste for me because of my sponsorship req's. Just don't be surprised if you lose your rear-end on this and are not able to hold it anymore after this year. I think if you wait for a year like I told you to, you'll stand a better chance of having a better rep down here later on down the line, but that's just my opinion.

[carguy07]

I can't believe this thread is still going, but it's good to see people who don't always post do at least check the forums. Maybe we have some street cred.

As for an artist, good luck. Ludacris is $60k, that's what UGA just paid to him for an hour of his time. I've seen many B level rappers at Frat parties here over the past four years (Nappy Roots, Project Pat, Afro Man, etc.), and the minimum number I've heard was $15k. None of these parties make money, they are financed by student fees and Fraternal dues.

I'm not saying it can never happen, but Rome wasn't built in a day. We all cite Nopi, but let's remember that Nopi took 15 years to get the name they had, and tore it all apart by trying to start a huge show series (last part is an opinion). Anything is possible, but we all have pipe dreams.

[SecondLetter]

I can't believe this thread is still going, but it's good to see people who don't always post do at least check the forums. Maybe we have some street cred.

As for an artist, good luck. Ludacris is $60k, that's what UGA just paid to him for an hour of his time. I've seen many B level rappers at Frat parties here over the past four years (Nappy Roots, Project Pat, Afro Man, etc.), and the minimum number I've heard was $15k. None of these parties make money, they are financed by student fees and Fraternal dues.

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i visit the forum alot just dont post much Lol, only if i have an opinion on the matter or can offer advice.

yeah, artist are expensive, the wocka flocka was just an example, he mentioned on a website his show fee is 10k, where as a top tier rapper out now Nikki Minaj ( bleeh) is 100k a show, just like drake. im pretty sure Gucci is like 50k or something, i dunno, im pretty sure vic could tell us ( the guy who brought down Gucci Mane).
T.I may be cheap next yr, as he'll be fresh out of jail again.
"Anything is possible, but we all have pipe dreams. "
couldnt have said it better, just like going to a buffet and your starving and you take one plate to get full....eyes bigger than our stomach in many cases outside of food.

[jasonball]

Even local covers bands cost in excess of 8000 plus you have to pay for the travel and lodging and lodging is a minimum of 3 days. along with there food. so 12,000 is a fair price.

[theboostedsnail]

nice to see some forum activity though this idea is to fast and trying to make to much happen in one show, you gotta start small and work your way up...like will said it took 15 years for nopi to be what it was

[carguy07]

i visit the forum alot just dont post much Lol, only if i have an opinion on the matter or can offer advice.

I completely understand man, not everyone is that opinionated. If there is 1 thing Columbus always wants to talk about though, it's car shows.

[theboostedsnail]

I completely understand man, not everyone is that opinionated. If there is 1 thing Columbus always wants to talk about though, it's car shows.
ha, are you sure you dont mean or lack there of good ones lol

[Cheek]

Well there's ifo here in montgomery next weekend i think. Thats bout a hour and a half or so drive for y'all.

[theboostedsnail]

the way i drive its like 45 mins :p

[bamachick]

Big mistake if you dont take Jason's advice! Jason has had the biggest and the best car shows around here hands down. Mainly because he cares more about the scene then his pockets. No one around here wants to participate in a car show that doesnt support a local charity. And no Jason may not have done all the work himself getting the car shows together that he has held but all ideas and direction have come from him. That I know for fact. I personally worked with Jason and Erika on his last show. It takes a lot of detail that I didnt realize until going over with him and the months and months of planning. So again, dont listen to him, it will be your failure.

[dean]

Big mistake if you dont take Jason's advice! Jason has had the biggest and the best car shows around here hands down. Mainly because he cares more about the scene then his pockets. No one around here wants to participate in a car show that doesnt support a local charity. And no Jason may not have done all the work himself getting the car shows together that he has held but all ideas and direction have come from him. That I know for fact. I personally worked with Jason and Erika on his last show. It takes a lot of detail that I didnt realize until going over with him and the months and months of planning. So again, dont listen to him, it will be your failure.

Not trying to take any credit, but I didn't consult Jason for Tuner Revolution this past year and we had dang near 50 people show up. I'm consulting him for this next show to get the charity. I don't think it has so much to do with the person, as it does with the work you're willing to put into it. That's not to say a little advice can't/won't go a long way, but common sense has so much to do with it too. If you're show was a turd one year, you just simply don't hold another show the same time the next year with the same name. Most of this is just my own personal opinion, but having said all that, I will say that Jason has considerable experience and can definitely offer invaluable guidance and advice.

[jasonball]

I appreciate all the kudo's from everyone. lol but this thread is starting to be come non productive.

[dean]

i appreciate all the kudo's from everyone. Lol but this thread is starting to be come non productive.
this!

[bigchris]

I have done mass research on all of the ideas i have and also the prices you guys ar elisting are not the corect prices. I fyou were going through a third part then yes those prices are correct. The promotor i am using is VIC and i know he is getting the direct for sure. The travel thing doesnt quite work like that. the key is to catch the artis when there either in atlanta or somewhere close by. now if they have to travel then yes you have to pay and not all want to stay overnight cause they have to be somewhere the net day. Now i will say this i will never be a follower but i am a leader and i will ask people for advice on any and everything if im not that much knowledgeable about it but if there not willing to help then there not willing to help. I dont think i should have to convince anyone to help when im coming to you man to man and sking you for help. now as far as my show being shit and the other comments beleive me i have all ready did an evaluation of everything that went wrong and have fixed that problem. the person i usually do the show with I will not be doing it with next year. every business i ask will striclty be for sponsoring only not to make any kind of money. there will probally be one person i will pay unless i can find someone else that can provide that service. I know it wont be as big but my concept will be the same as theres. Now i agree the civic center is costly but there is other places i have went out and looked at the civic center was just the first idea. I have been doing a lot of research and doing all the proper planning for this show but all i ask from anyone unless i come to you pesonally is to help spread the word cause beleive me anyone that has show here in columbus i immediately post it on my page and alert all i know that would be interested about it. I beleive righ tnow I am doing everything right to set this show up for success as far as the major details go. It may not seem like it but i take in all the needed info to make it great. I learned one thing so far but i think i already knew about it i just didnt know the technical name for it. but please continue with the comments and ideas.

[jasonball]

so give us the details so we have something to spread. I can't spread a show if I don't know anything about it.

[bigchris]

i will once everything is in writing and final. Right now everything is still in the air with a few major decisions...so here is a question would everyone rather see top _____ or individual classes.

[jasonball]

proper individual classes. top 100 is to general. people work to hard on there cars to be generalized like that.

example 69 black camaro prestine restoration plus some. doesn't want to grouped with a 2000 linclon with big rims and ice cream paint job. :)

[bigchris]

ha ha, yeah you completley right...lol

[dean]

ha ha, yeah you completley right...lol

Chris check out my classing structure for Tuner Revolution. I believe that something similar to that would be more along the right lines. Maybe not quite as segregated, but similar.

[carguy07]

Chris check out my classing structure for Tuner Revolution. I believe that something similar to that would be more along the right lines. Maybe not quite as segregated, but similar.

Those are some good classes, definitely a solid starting point for just about any show.

[dean]

Classing:
Best in Show
Pastor’s Choice
Popular Ride
Club Participation
Foreign
-Asian
-Euro
-Exotic
-Classic/Antique
Domestic
-Tuner
-Classic/Antique
-Muscle
Truck
-Minitruck
-SUV
-Offroad
Bike
-Street
-Sport
-Cruiser
Under Construction (Project)
Sound Off
-10’s
-12’s
-15’s

There will be a best of class trophy for each segregated class, 1st - 3rd place trophies for each segregated class, and 1st place only trophies for all classes.

There's the lineup of our classing structure for Tuner Revolution copied/pasted from that thread. Good luck with your planning bro. Count me in for the show if you decide to go forward with it.

[theboostedsnail]

another thing if you wanna appeal to the people who arent all in to making their cars show queens you could get a poarta dyno and give trpohies out for highest hp, naturally aspirated 4,6, and 8 and boosted 4,6, and 8...and even lowest hp or highest hp diesel, just a suggestion, you say you wanna go big so you need to make sure to include everyone including people like me who dont go to shows cause our cars can win trophies

[drewyoutoo]

another thing if you wanna appeal to the people who arent all in to making their cars show queens you could get a poarta dyno and give trpohies out for highest hp, naturally aspirated 4,6, and 8 and boosted 4,6, and 8...and even lowest hp or highest hp diesel, just a suggestion, you say you wanna go big so you need to make sure to include everyone including people like me who dont go to shows cause our cars can win trophies

Damn fine input that boosted :thumb:

[theboostedsnail]

appreciate it lol

[bigchris]

I definelty like those classes but what did you mean by 1st place trophies only for all classes. you mean 1st place trophy for the domestic class and top3 for the sub classes. Also i still need to come up with a class for you know the lifesaver car adn vehicles like that. but i am definetly gonna bite some of those classes and a couple of my own.

[StevenSTi]

if your gonna do a dyno, make sure its AWD ;)

[dean]

I definelty like those classes but what did you mean by 1st place trophies only for all classes. you mean 1st place trophy for the domestic class and top3 for the sub classes. Also i still need to come up with a class for you know the lifesaver car adn vehicles like that. but i am definetly gonna bite some of those classes and a couple of my own.

In each class there's a Best of Class Trophy which is basically chosen by the judges and based on their opinion .... and in addition there's a top 3 per all the segregated classes (i.e. each Domestic class has a 1-3rd place and there's a Domestic Best of Class). Then there will be a 1st place in each segregated category that's solely decided by the number of points. The car with the most points in each class will have a trophy.